tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post7820689032038810870..comments2024-03-27T05:50:16.659+00:00Comments on We Mixed Our Drinks: What does 'bigger' and 'sturdy' look like? The Sartorialist wants to show youHannah Mudgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06367085612049349757noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-8952470304561630952011-04-13T03:41:08.139+01:002011-04-13T03:41:08.139+01:00xi"like fashion magazine editors putting out ...xi"like fashion magazine editors putting out a super-inclusive 'curvy issue' or 'black issue' once every few years and patting themselves on the back for months about just how revolutionary they're being."<br /><br />arghblargh. this really gets on my nerves as well. it's just like, hmm, wait - the world at large is made up of all sorts of people, not just thinwhiteaffluent people.<br /><br />and yeah, i don't like the attitude he took with this commetary. super condescending.Leannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17768356253663279032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-44111269670094532672011-04-09T15:10:07.507+01:002011-04-09T15:10:07.507+01:00whoo, good post! I totally agree with everything y...whoo, good post! I totally agree with everything you said. and It is no wonder that larger women don't like posing for him, I wouldn't, I don't want my body commented on on a blog that has such a wide readership. There's nothing that bugs me more than magazines and t.v. and everyone telling every woman that she can only wear a wrap dress! what if we don't want to wear wrap dresses! <br /><br />xx <br /><br />Caitlin RoseCaitlin Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06084279045380575411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-12639408998022922802011-04-03T15:22:28.076+01:002011-04-03T15:22:28.076+01:00My main issue with his post was that he felt the n...My main issue with his post was that he felt the need to make any comment at all, especially since he rarely provides commentary on his 'subjects'.<br /><br />However, I did also take issue with his use of the word 'curvy', not because I think he was deliberately using that word to imply that she was fat, but simply because, like it or not, it is a common euphemism for 'plus-sized' so he should have been aware of the storm he would create.<br /><br />I completely agree that his post edit made the situation even worse, and came across as a sort of non-apology - "I'm sorry if you were offended, but what would you suggest I do". His last line especially ("I don't want to lose the potential power of the post by being caught up in wordplay.") was incredibly reductive and patronising, suggesting that anyone who took issue with what he wrote was just playing a nitpicky game of semantics rather than having any valid point!thekiwibexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09664951935884608325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-68158135232943128632011-04-02T15:34:27.399+01:002011-04-02T15:34:27.399+01:00i really enjoyed reading this post!
however, i do...i really enjoyed reading this post!<br /><br />however, i do believe this touchy subject has totally blown out of proportions.<br /><br />i disagree with some of the commenters' statements where they said the word "curvy" is simply a euphemism for fat. in my opinion (of a 16 y/o guy who has lived with women his whole life), every woman is curvy. no matter the weight, the curves exist. and again, no matter the weight, the curves are beautiful. <br /><br />i'm probably only maundering right now, but i believe he made the totally useless commentary on her shape just to point out the fact that the typical blogger look isn't the only one that exists in the fashion blogosphere. like you, if not for the remark, i would have never noticed her "new" body shape.<br /><br />scott should leave words to garance.<br /><br />hopefully, this comment made a bit of sensechuck n.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17075906072252760531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-42374832727996346212011-03-31T19:13:58.650+01:002011-03-31T19:13:58.650+01:00great post, a really refreshing read.
I'm a ne...great post, a really refreshing read.<br />I'm a new follower, I found your blog through another I follow. I would love it if you coulc check out my blog too :)<br /><br />www.creditcrunchchic.blogspot.com<br /><br />xoxo Amie xoxoamie khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07614317091196277992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-89680395338325144992011-03-31T18:19:58.621+01:002011-03-31T18:19:58.621+01:00great post! when i read that schuman post i felt r...great post! when i read that schuman post i felt really uncomfortable and strangely upset but couldn't put my finger on it. you nailed it! thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-74567304199902190312011-03-30T09:28:52.922+01:002011-03-30T09:28:52.922+01:00fantastic, I'm glad I read this. There's a...fantastic, I'm glad I read this. There's a part of me that thinks that small "controversies" such as this one simply highlight a wider issue: the lack of reality that infiltrates the insular fashion world. I get it that fashion is supposed to include elements of dream-like untouchability. After all, one of the reasons so many people love fashion magazines is that they present beautiful imagery that is different from everyday life. But really, there has to be some perspective to acccompany this. There also has to be some other way to talk about women's bodies without resorting to categories and placing women within them. It's funny that men are raely scrutinised with the same level of intensity as women. Like you, I don't know why he even made her body an issue, she seems pretty lovely to me.<br /><br />Gosh, it's such a relief to read such an intelligent post!Hilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06635628613744519816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-39852883964856339102011-03-29T15:33:13.525+01:002011-03-29T15:33:13.525+01:00This is without question one of the best analysis ...This is without question one of the best analysis I have read of the situation. I can't believe he actually referred to a girl as anything at all. I don't think he needed to pat himself on the back and point out that he finally shot someone who wasn't thinthinthin. Sigh. <br /><br />I hope Garance slapped him.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18411988545508425654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-23791079670197867712011-03-29T11:49:48.960+01:002011-03-29T11:49:48.960+01:00i love this post, hannah. i absolutely detest the ...i love this post, hannah. i absolutely detest the sartorialist and what seems to be his attitude to fashion/women/life. to me, the fact that he referred to that woman as 'bigger' and 'sturdy' just shows how completely out of touch he is with the real world.sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01539824384236123792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-23967863007417242042011-03-29T09:42:18.525+01:002011-03-29T09:42:18.525+01:00I love Scott's photos but for a long time I...I love Scott's photos but for a long time I've thought he should stick to what he knows. His commentary on his subjects is often clumsy and awkward and this is just another example.Nataliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17364100952552937434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-34285750086463847132011-03-29T08:40:26.165+01:002011-03-29T08:40:26.165+01:00Great post. Yet another reason to keep the Sartori...Great post. Yet another reason to keep the Sartorialist off my blog reader.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12697458864156792015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-38516133431892429732011-03-29T02:43:24.659+01:002011-03-29T02:43:24.659+01:00Love your post Hannah! Totally agree with everythi...Love your post Hannah! Totally agree with everything you said and whatever way you look at it, even if you think it has all blown up he would never of said that about a man! Why is it ok to talk about women like this?Natasha Bailiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15681774483133655711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-46658870175548827082011-03-28T23:23:56.461+01:002011-03-28T23:23:56.461+01:00Great post Hannah! It was totally unnecessary to r...Great post Hannah! It was totally unnecessary to refer to her body shape in such confining terms. He is affixing his image of her as 'different' to himself and as a result to his readers. I noticed some male readers express how they preferred 'curvy' women and had no problem with the term. Hah, when has a male ever been described as curvy? And if they were, I think they would have a problem with that.Zoƫhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13196378514902183627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-327544553976967122.post-69864702759858669402011-03-28T21:39:49.993+01:002011-03-28T21:39:49.993+01:00Interesting post. I'll have to check him out.
...Interesting post. I'll have to check him out.<br />I agree with you on your comment about not being able to wear certain clothes/hiding and creating illusions. This is one of the reasons I don't like Gok's method on How to Look Good Naked (although I love him in other ways) which is where he makes every woman an hourglass figure, as if that's the only acceptable body shape for a woman! It's bizarre.Eve Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11909519196412784331noreply@blogger.com